I tend to agree with the cheep crowd, as I can't justify spending a large ammount of money on a rifle scope. I've noticed the rubber armored scopes tend to move in the rings and therefore will not hold zero. I think the simmons 8 point scopes are a little to cheep and don't holdup well either. I tend to agree with the weaver fixed power scopes, they are very clear and rugged. Would likely be a good choice for the hard kickers. But here in the east where our shots at game are usually under 300 yards, or more likely under 150 yds a fixed scope is all we really need. Their's a real need for variables when shooting paper or varmints. Any scope reguardless of price should show more definition than the human eye in low light situations, and the human eye is what most game departments are considering when talking about legal shooting light. Their are many deer killed in my neck of the woods when it could be called night hunting!