Crigger there is no confusion all I was stating was that people will accept 200 plus hits in a ten inch circle at 40 yards , but they cannot accept 40 hit in the vitals at 60. REREAD my post. There is no confusion at all. I believe if people spent more time BONDING with thir gun instead of fearing it with those howlitzer size 3.5 inch shells,most couldachieve resultslike this. I really enjoy people who are doubtful of ones accomplishments. My friends Dad was the same way until he saw it happen. I am not a professional shooter and I have no reason to lie to people whom I will never see in person. I am the type of person that likes to know what my limits are with my hunting equipment and love to fine tune things(if you will). Thanks HUNT