well guys i called in an absolute MONSTER of a bird this morning. had season been in i would have gotten us alot of points. had him at 10 yards so i got a good look at him. he has to be at least 25 pounds and had the biggest beard i've ever seen. it was really thick and about 12-13" long. didnt see his spurs but he's definately an old timer. im going to leave him alone until season so hopefully he'll stick around that long. our season doesnt come in for 4 more weeks yet [:@]