I, too, like to play around with bullet testing. There is a guy who has taken this testing bullets in various expansion mediums thing to a whole new level - do a google search on "box o' truth" . . . really interesting stuff.

When it comes to the 250 Shockwave, however, I have seen what this bullet did toelk on five different occasions. It works. Great combination of penetration and expansion. I don't think bales, unless they are really wet, are going to give you much insight. Phone books soaked in water for 24 hours are similar to muscle tissue. Ballistic geletin is also a good medium for conducting "apples to apples" tests between projectiles. But the bottom line is that the real life critter test is all that really matters. And the 250 Shockwave has already passed this test with flying colors.