I'm visiter here telling about a new project that I mentioned in the slug guns thread. It is called the 12GA From Hell, that three of us
over on AR has worked on for last 2+ years. It is a long 12ga paradox style cartridge, but with a stronger case than used in the old days. We made case from bmg brass by putting a 12 ga size rim on bmg brass.First picture shows our case next to regular 12ga case, which can also be fired in our chambers.Second pictture
is my Savage 210 that I put cartridge in using heavy barrel and stock. I've got over 10,000 ft lbs with the Savage, other guys more with their heavier actions. Ed Hubel.