Hi, I'm back from 3 day hog hunt, don't ask!!LOL. Missed a bobcat at 30 yds. You guys/gal [hi cat] would be doing yourself a favor IMHO, to try Slick Tricks. The one I pulled out of the mud w/ cat hair on it, but no blood, thanks Lord, didn't even need sharpening. I've got a rooster here that's got to go, am waiting on my zwickeys to get here to test them out. Regards to all.