FroMan...if its the one i think....you probably bought the 'jake' gobbling tube...i hope you dont forget about it, and still try using it...i have one...and in my opinion, along with the dekes i use i get very good reactions from the toms...try this; instead of just shaking it....take the 'horn' in one hand...the other end in the other and do a fast..'pull-push' movement with the call....i find it not only makes a bit lower tone...but i have the control to make a cadence typical of a true young gobbler. It seems to work best with my set-ups cause i use two hens and one jake...the sounds that call makes gives an impression of a jake who happens to have taken a few hens from the local dominent gobbler.