RE: NY's Hunter safety course
Sylvan is correct about that, it has nothign to do with the course itself, it is because the instructors do not want to be babysitters, and rightfully so. BUT, I was going to inquire about the shooting requirement. My hunter saftey course years ago, and the ones now taught at my club, do not have a shooting requirement, which means NYS doesn't. Enroll him in place which follows only the state guidelines and does not add its own requirements, and then take him out shooting yourself.