Being an old Leupold guy, I just wanted to say that I've bought quite a few of them used at gun shows over the years, all VX-II's. Never had a bit of problems with any of them. Seem to be going for around $175.00 right now, where I live. They don't sit around on the vendor's table very long. Lots of Redfields available too. Less money for a very decent scope. Just a thought...... you may want to check the gunshows out.... How about it, James B.?