I can tell you 2 weeks ago the Kittery Trading post in Kittery Maine had last years models they were trying to get rid of for $450.00. I just got the Q2 used but just like brand new all set up belive it or not for $250.00 with 10 Carben extreame arrows. I really love that store. If your interested I have the phone number postedin this foarm under cheap arrows. Mike