To "thesource"...do you notice how I am addressing this to you, personally? Good, we are off to a good start then. Perhaps youll also note how I HAVENT addressed you personally in that prior post. I did NOT quote you, or say it was you. In fact, I believe the words I DID use were "we" and "guys". This isnt just you, we are a forum made up of umpteen members addressing a topic we have covered over many months here. Sooo, my comments were based on this on-going exchange as well as those preceding it, and their over-whelming distrust for the DEC as well as opinions you share, all figured in. So,youll wannafind someone else to challenge, call lame, learn the meaning of myopia and to tell to zip it. This is an open dialog. If you dont care to have YOUR opinion disagreed with, you are talking to the wrong group of guys. Personally, I have watched these same up and down trends in deer numbers long enough to know theyll continue no matter what we post in here. This is supposed to be a fun place to just bounce stuff around. I know better than to challenge any one person in here, as it forces them to become defensive. I dont need that. You can keep throwing us the stats, but there will still be those of us who feel that even if the percentage were 90% instead of 45%, its not the ratio we are talking about, its the end number. Plain and quite simple.