i have guns that shoot best withmatchkings, but every gun is individual, even among the same manufactors, you can get close (Probably close enough) with someone else's load data,but for ultra tight grouping it will take experimenting,for hunting i prefer patitions and scrirocco(sp), although iam nota big fan of the ballistic tip type bullets they do shoot very well,the original post didn't mention hunting or target shooting so i'm not sure which you were looking for, BTW welcome to the forums rebeng