I bought climbing stirrups for my summit viper already. It helped a lot but I am looking for something really light and no bar on the front. I like the bar for gun and muzzleloader hunting but for bow hunting I find myself standing up all the time and I'd like to be able to sit down and shoot. The summit forces me to stand and shoot my bow. I also find myself tending to stay close to the path with the summit cause it is a little heavy. I would like to get the 14.5 pounder and see if that helps me get off the beaten path.