Sorry you guys I just barely got back to a computer. I work for the Department of Corrections and I work 12 hour days with 4 days on and 3 off and then vica-versa. I dont own a computer at home sorry Triple7. dmurphy317 I would be really interested on the outcome of your testing please keep us posted. The information I provided was from a statement that RW made himself from huntamerica.com. I have nothing personal against RW, like I said before I own an omega and a black diamond but I would never bash them or TC even though my favorite is the winchester apex. My posts are always late at night because I work graveyards.