ORIGINAL: Pittsburghunter
The first reply I read on this post made more sense than what the two guys involved ever said. dmurphy is correct only mfg testing with open results will put to rest any questions about how safe our arms are. We can even add a caviat to that if they don't test than why?
Then again why would the mfg care what us little people think[:@]
It occurs to me that our Muzzleloaders are already being tested, day in, day out. Every time we load our muzzleloader and successfully fire them we are "proofing" our barrels to that pressure. Doesn't mean the rifles are safe at that load on repeated firings, just means the barrel has withstood the pressure of that load.
To my knowledge, no BPI product has blown up using 100 grains of 2f BP or equivalent (e.g. 85 grains 2f 777). If anyone knows of such a thing happening, I would like to know of the documentation. Also, to my knowledge, all or most of the accidents occurred during the first range session with maximum 3 pellet loads, most commonly on the first shot fired. I would also like to know just how many of these incidents are documented by Randy.
I really do think that most accidents using manufacture approved loads do occur on the first shot fired and with the max allowed charge. I think a rough bore coupled with a maximum charge is responsible for highly elevatedpressures in this initial firing. I think an incident like this could happen with any new muzzleloader, made by any manufacturer, when one fires a 3 pellet load in a brand new muzzleloader. Of course this is only my opinion.
I think Randy does a disservice to hundreds of thousands of muzzleloading enthusiasts who own rifles withSpanish made barrels when he seems to be incapable of making recommendations of loads which can safely be used in them. If he were to tell me flat out, thathe"doesn't know" if they canbe used safely at all, I would consider him disingenious.
Happy Hunting, Phil