The trouble with most swab solutions is they put too much on the patch. This can make a real mess in the breech of the rifle. Especially the traditional style rifles. I swab with 50/50 isopropyl alcohol and car windshield washer fluid. I wet a patch, ring it out with my fingers, and then swab the barrel using both sides of the patch. I then run two drypatches through the barrel. The second one usually always comes up dry.

On the Triple Se7en crud ring, when you feel that, work that patch good over that area, it will take it off. Any time you suspect you have mositure in the breech, before loading the next round, pop a 209 through it. That will blow the water and crud out of the barrel even sometimes.