I killed a big red fox (15 lbs) this past season while deer hunting from a stand. This was on my private property, and a neighbor had been having problems with foxes killing his baby goats. Well, sure enough a fox steps out from teh cedar trees one evening while I am out there with nothing but a 7mm Mag. I wasnt so much concerned with the fur as with killing the fox, so I shot it. Let me tell you, when i got out of the stand to get the fox i was suprised as hell to see the fox all but torn in two, but still alive and trying to push itself around with its back legs. Right before I pulled the trigger again to put it down for good, it turned and snarled at me, fighting to the end. It sure as hell made me a believer in the toughness of those red foxes!