Shonuff, I understand the ballistics are very different between the 30-30 and the 300 win mag. I have about 65 million gazillion ballistic charts.

But would you agree that at 700 yards the 300 win mag would barely have enough energy to kill an elk?
Yet I have heard guys claim that they have shot elk at almost 800 yards with with 270, 280, 30-06, 300 win mag. All I was saying is , that to me , these stories seem a bit far fetched.