I've shot one in the shoulder on accident, I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN....i never found the deer ( a big buck with a strange rack, 4 on the right that were all about 12" high and 3 on the left with a split into a drop tine that was about 8" long.) I never found it and have beating myself up over it ever since. For most midwestern guys bucks we are taking are around 150-250 lbs. depending on maturity of the deer. I won't ever do that again. I was young, but that's no excuse.