Central Texas, free ranging whitetail dont get much bigger than 100 lbs. I shot a nice 8pt in '04 and it might have weighed 140 somethin field dressed. Aged at 3 1/2 yrs. heaviest deer anyone had killed on our place in several years. Most of the mature does are anywhere from 80-110 lbs Field dressed(guestimate, we've never had a scale out there to weigh 'em) These aint no moster yankee deer! 250 lbs would be an extremely rare deer down here.

Now, on the high fenced, protein fed, farm raising, managed game ranches, that's another story.... and altogether different debate to begin with.

I do see what you guys mean about the shoulder shot. I'm just trying to draw from a larger pool of experience. Numbers and written estimations are no match for experience.