Have you guys ever herd of movable backers, in benchrest competition they are used to confirm that all the bullets actually were fired into the same group.Thats how tight the groups tend to be. And yes there may not be a true one hole group, but many have been regestered under 1/10" and some under1/100 ". Mind you these are usually 10 shot groups,not 3 or5 as we do with our hunting rifles. Like I've said before (don't condem what you don't undersand). I'm not implying that I can shoot to this level, and I don't own equipment that will do it either. I do have two rifles that will do better than 1moa most of the time,and neither cost 1000 bucks.Perfection is to be strived for but never achieved!