sorry I haven't replied sooner. Busy weekend.

Siskyou
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> I think you chose your shaft combos based on experience, correct?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
yes. I also use Archers Advantage to play with some numbers. If the information is entered correctly I find the results are very simmilar to real world tests. I work part time at Wilderness Packs. Susies is still in business. With the way they treat thier customers I don't konw how they stay open.

JeffB
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Say your hand shot groups were 4 times as big (4&quot. Did some shafts show a larger increase when handshot (say 5 or 6 times the hooter shooter shot group?)
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I got pretty much the same type of results in hand. The goups wern't quite so nice though. go figure
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I too am puzzled as to how these shafts which seem weak, are shooting so well out of your set-up. It could be a bazillion things really.. Is your Vortec a Verscam model? XT limbs? 2000 or 3000 limbs? Do you have the Versacam adjusted near the shortest draw length setting or the longest? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
I have Saber cam cut to 29&quot; draw length with XT2000 limbs. I believe the combination of the softer, smother saber cam, string loop and fall away rest help me pull it off.
thanks for the kind words. I agree with you on the value of the ACC shafts.

Pinwheel12
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> After you get your groups tuned to as tight as you can get them at distance, just for grins run each setup through paper at 6-9' and I'll bet you find a 11:00 tail-high left tear approx 1/4-1/2&quot; or so if your spine is correct. I am confident some will tear this way if you are a right-handed shooter and use a release. Good shooting, Pinwheel 12
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guess what I found? I tuned the bow with the ACC setup. I also shot setups with a simmilar spine. They all gave the tear you predicted. Thanks for the good information.

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Edited by - ACLakey on 10/29/2002 19:12:22