YUP, I shot one at about 10 feet one time and SAW the arrow enter about the 5th rib and it came out under the front shoulder. The arrow was covered in slimy green stinky stuff. My buddy said I gut shot it. I said I didn't. We found maybe a tablespoon of blood in 100 yards. The arrow had passed through the deers esphogus. The deer regurgetated all kinds of green chewed up stuff. It followed the exit channel and plugged it solid. There was a ball of half chewed green stuff between the hide and the arm pit that would choke a horse. We teach in bowhunter education classes that what you see is NOT necessarily so. Well, sometimes it is and the evidence is wrong.