Well, just for some balance...I'm a very bigfan ofprelubed wads...but I'velearned over 15+ yearsthat they're only really beneficial with highpowerhunting loads...don't need them for anything else...so beyond shooting a few shots to sight in a rifleand then shooting the occasional deer, a bag of 100 OxYoke wads lasts me a long time...$5...and they're not messy...I'm just saying think it through