Thanx guys, was looking at the Barnes Spit-Fires, have heard a lot of good things about them. More than likely shoot 777 since that is all I use in my Omega and Knight's. Always seem to end up right at 100 grs. load no matter the bullet or the rifle. I tried 3 pyro pellets in an old disc rifle I had with the Barnes Expanders and it shot around an inch but the recoil was a hell of alot more than I was comfortable with.Did kill my first Bull with that load though.