Thank you all for your responce. We do have a population problem, but that isa problemthat takes time to fix. We have a lot of 1.5 and 2 year old 8 points or bigger that have a better chance of making a "monster." As a manager I try not to judge a deer before he is 2.5 years old, and at that point if he is not to my liking, he is gone. I would probably agree that a 1.5 year old spike should be left alone. However, it is hard to let that spike walk, when standing besidehim is a 15" eight point of the same age.That leads to yet another question. If a buck is 4 years old and is still an eight point should I let him walk?