i dont want to wrinkle any feathers here are these the same PROVEN big deer hunter selling you scent lock suites and wash every time you go into the woods all thore soaps. or is the ones that spend there time in the mid west all year and tell you i would have never killed that 130 class deer .it sounds great but in the real world.im sure if you talk to most bowhunter they dont have time to go home and take a showers. i know i dont and it looks like your from wis.you live in a great area for big deer.honsty i inv you guys in the mid west i think you guys are spoiled.ha ha ha. here in most parts of maryland if you get a shot at 120 or so class deer you better shoot it.if you want to know were some of the real PROVEN big deer hunters live go to pa or ny or other states that dont have alot of mature deer. these guys kill some really nice bucks year after year.!!!! my good hunting buddy smokes while hes hunting and i think hes nuts and hea killedkill as many mature buck as anybody so go figuire!!!well that my 2cents for what its worth!!!