That's not really fair. True, the run and gun stuff is probably not the best evaluation of a bird dog, but being successful enough to beat other pointing breeds certianly shows that the dogs can find birds, point them, and then retrieve them....that is all a lot of guys want.

Now, if you are trying to say that winning a couple run and guns makes you ready for the All Age Class at the Ames Plantation or a contender in NAVHDA Invitational....I would say you are smokin some good stuff.