GregH, I couldn't agree more with what you said! I think speed is a moot point ifyou don't have silence. I don't even know how fast my recurve or my old Jennings is shooting. What I do know is that I have never made a bad shot on a deer. For 3D shooting, speed is ideal. But for hunting, silence is deadly and a slower speed bow leaves more room for error in form which is perfect since I mainly spot and stalk whitetails as opposed to using a treestand. I tried using a fast bow once, target shooting in real-life ground hunting situations and I couldn't stay accurate due to strange body positions (having to lean around trees, shooting from my knees in a semi-crouched position, etc.). In addition, I don't believe I've ever shot further than 30 yars while still hunting and in a stand... I don't think i've ever had a deer farther than 15 yards!