Yeah, I definetly wont be firing these dont worry. Im pretty sure they wont even fit in the chamber. The die must have been moved lower, I didnt test it before I ran the cartridges. I dont know if the initial OAL fit, cause I havent used a 65 grain bullet before, so I was going with the recommended length. Sucks, cause now I have to throw away about 30 cases, Im just gonna get rid of the batch to be careful. Thanks for the help, obviously just a dumb newbie mistake, I need to be more careful. I can only imagine what would happen if I had tried to fire these.[:@]