My buddy (two of 'em actually) can get a box of 20 for 5 or 6 bucks!!!! And if I recall right, it sits right between a 308 and 30-06. For the money they can't be beat, and I'll probably buy one this summer when I got some dough to throw around. The only thing I don't like about them is the fat front sight...but you can get past that pretty easy.