its a heck of lot cheaper than targets and much better.the cardboard box with rags might be a better way than my feed mill big bags.i like his idea better as you can see down from the top of box and if your hunting points are stuck in the rags, you can just unhook it.rags are way to go. forget the bales of straw, arrows will go thru straw and bend arrows as it makes a hole. rags you can move around. try the box with rags, i think thats better than the feed mill bag.