hey Rebel, did you ever see the pic of the black man holding the eastern diamondback rattler that was killed in the wekiva springs area? the snake was said to be like 13 foot 2 inches long and appeared to be that long looking at the pic. the man had huge arms (biceps) and it looked as if he was having a hard time holding it up. the pic also said the black man was over 6 foot tall and he was holding the snake with both forearms and the snake was touching the ground on both ends.