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When i still hunt the 1st thing I do is clear all the leaves around my feet. Clear out a good area that way when you do move you won't be crunching leaves. I would find a good spot where there are some trails present.

You might try to get out earlier if you can. Make sure that you are scent free and facing the direction the wind is blowing. Scent control is critical when you are on the ground.

Are you seeing signs of deer in the area?
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There are tons of deer signs within the general area but I have had the worst luck were there is the most sign. I followed what I'm guessing (pretty sure) is a deer trail in to the spot I was sitting at last night.

The deer I heard were across a stream from me in some pretty thick stuff. I'm afraid I spook them coming in to that area usually when I try to get too close. I think I may have had some better luck this time because I was trying to stay very quiet and move slowly.

I know there are some huge deer (a buddy thinks a 10 pointer + judging by some rubs) but I'm having a tough time seeing them even though I have found a TON of rubs, prints, trials, scat etc. etc.

It is one of those things when you know there there but you just can't get to them.