I had to add one more thought to this forum. Many seem to think that since shot placement is more critical with a smaller caliber rifle you shouldn't use them, and at the same time they probably would not hesitate to use an indian pistol. Any 223 with a good scope should group into three inches or less at 200 yds, a good bow would doughtfully group inside an eight inch pie plate at 30 yds under hunting conditions, but most hunters wouldn't hesitate to bow hunt. This is food for thought not criticizem. I'm not implying thay a good compound bow can't group very well but adrenilen screws the best of them up!