ORIGINAL: KBI-PREZ
I use penetrator points and also i use white yellow and green arrows but i think after i moved the nock end up above level it helped more than anything. That way the arrow is going at a downward angle whenit leaves the bow.... Try it if you still have troubles and let me know how it works out foryou.
have the arrow come off the bow at a downward angle....i'll try it and let you know how it works. may even go back to shooting off the shelf. thanks for the pointer