ranchand99, all I can say is last year prior to season in NY I patterned with Remingtons. Then I read about the Federals and got some. With changing nothing, I was getting 5-10 more pellets in the vital area and could tell there were more pellets in the 10" circle......... I will be using them from now on! [8D]

Almost forgot, using a Mossberg 835, 28" ported and Undertaker Choke [8D]