i shoot patch n ball out of my 50cal TC hawken flinter....i would kinda like to shot a big ole conical...just for the weight/shock/damage factor...but my tc LOVES to shot round balls...and absolutely hates to shot bullets of any kind ive tried..dont know why...but i can shoot touching groups with balls...only killed 2 groundhogs with them...one at 45yds straight through the boiler room like a deer off the sticks...the other was 10-15yds standing...i was standing freehand....perfect hole through the neck....