oops. last i heard from my buddy in Co he got his figured out before he got my email, and like i said, mike carter advised him to get it - who i trust a lot. if i've got a question about my machine or a string i call mike first. if mike says its the way to go on binaries - there has to be something there to it. i'm actually getting a fixed position for my 3-d bow, the gkf infinity with tuning gauge - comes with 4 launchers - i'll be using the lizard tongue. on my hunting rig i like my TT standard launcher, no contact, not too much moving,and i trust if i drop my bow it won't get damaged. i took off my dropzone, which i liked very much, in favor of it when i was leaving for a week of hunting camp only because i knew i wouldn't have to worry about it at all, and there are some parts on the DZ that look a little rinky - and i didn't want to take a chance. i'm not saying the thing is bad, or junk, or anything like that, i've just changed my mind about what kind of hunting rest i want. i'll bypass some performance options if necessary for something simple, predictable, and that can take a pounding, something that won't cross my mind for a week in the woods. and while it may have more options, and when set properly, may have better performance, it just doesn't sound like what i'm looking for in a hunting rest.