Agreed. I also shoot the A/C/C. The thing I like about the Carbon Express Maximas is the way the arrow is built. Most carbons are wrapped, but the C E is woven. It looks like a woven basket. Also, most carbon arrows are built to one size then sanded down to the proper specs. Not so with C E. Each arrow they build is built to it's own specs. Apprently they own pattent rights to this technique.