I my self have read a lot of things about the high point hand guns both god and bad and have all so heard a lot of bad. but i have read a lot of good things about them. they will fire 1000's of rounds and not jam up. i think 99% of the bad stuff you hear about them come from stories othes hear not first hand info. every first hand story i have heard have been positive. for 150 for a 45 what do you have to lose? id buy one ugly maybe but with the warrenty and price go for it