here is example. this year in pa. PGC is wiping deer out here in 2g.just about everyone i talked too that was in a treestand did not get a deer. most said they only saw a few deer and most were moving or you could not set up and expect deer to come your way. then i talked to ones that hunted increw or singleonground. half got their deer.what i am saying is ,things are changing do to LACK of deer here in WMU2G. tree sitters are getting very few deer and walkers/stalkers are.why, you have to be able to move on those last few deer left now. when there was a lot of deer, no problem in trees.no, ITS HOW FAST CAN YOU MOVE AND SET UP .take care.