A friend of mine bought one of them for his son. I think it is the Bobcat model, I know they paid under $60.00 for it. Well I tell you what, that kid can shoot. He found the sweet load for it, and he can put that .50 caliber round ball anywhere he wants. Also when we do drives, at the end of the day, that kid with that light little rifle is still going. Some of us old timers with out big heavy ones know we have walked too far and carried that thing too long (of course that would not be old age, would it?). I am not sure how it shoots conicals because all he ever used was 70 grains of Pyrodex RS and a .015 patch and a Hornady round ball. I thought of getting one myself, just for the fun of it.....