I like to get on a ridge across from the ridge I expect to hear the birds.I get there just before daylight.When they gobble it's easier to pinpoint them and I don't risk bumpin one from the roost.If it's a new area I'll go in there in the middle of the day just to get a lay of the land.While lookin across to where the birds are roosti ,pick a landmark and you have him pinpointed.example,100yd from the top and just to the left of the gully.Good Luck