Why do hunters in northern Minnesota have the atitude that if its brown its down. Then the same people complain that they never see any big deer. I don't see anyone practicing Quality Deer Managment up here. I could be wrong, but when you see the steady stream of spikes on forks flow into the registration stations, it's hard to come to any onther conclutions. I say let the smaller deer walk. give him 3 more years then he will be worth shooting.