I also thought they looked like good broadheads and got some last year. I was hunting public ground and shot an awesome 8 pointer at 18 yards with the talons. He was a 160 class deer! After the shot, I went and inspected my arrow and was not pleased!!! At the shot the arrow went in and came back out! The tip of the broadhead was completely broken off and the blades didn't even seem to penetrate. I followed a meager blood trail for 1/2 mile (spot of blood every 40-50 yards). The next day I continued to trail, but his path went right by a parking area and continued to go no further so I don't know if someone else found him or he just stopped bleeding) The shot looked to be good, maybe a little forward but good. I wasn't too happy. I went back to my spitfire pro series.