the only thing wrong with the hi-points is that they are ugly. i have ran somewhere in the area of a 1000 rounds threw the 9mm without one jam or misfire. and that was with some of the cheapest ammo i could find. there is a life time replacement on parts and service so how could you going wrong for less than $150.00. it will never be a target pistol and it willnever be myfavorite pistol but it always fires. it is a far cry from being a piece of junk. i think you will find that most people that think that they are junk have never owned or havefired one. it would be an ideal under the bed or a back pack pistol.