OHarcher,
They are great shafts! Peoples might have their "favorites" when it comes to the fat shafts, but the bottom line is that on the 3D circuit they are virtually the only fat shafts being used. They don't sponsor a lot of people, including myself, but everyone uses them, and I won a national ASA shoot with them last year.

As far as strength, I shot one through a 3/8 inch OSB board with no damage-try that with an ACC. The board was also at an angle. I also didn't crack or break any the entire year, just a few nocks.

That AA program covers the averages, but I don't go by that, I go by how they group, tune, and how well others are doing with them. My 3D bow is a Conquest II, 70#'s, 28" draw. My arrows are 27.5 inches, 100 grain point, and weigh around 350 grains. Most people that use them well, shoot them between 26 and 28 inches, high 60's to 70 pounds, and 100 to 125 grains. More point weight with shorter arrow, less pounds, less point weight with longer arrow, more pounds.

The arrows are extremely accurate, or I wouldn't use them. They fly as well as my ACE's, ACC's, Corbon Express 100's or 200's, or my Gold Tips-all of those arrows I have either won a national championship with, or have placed highly with.

There are a lot of people who you can listen to out there and many of them don't shoot well enough to even know the difference. I have always listened to only those people who have a history of shooting well and are currently shooting well. If you do that, you'll find that they are top-notch arrows.

I'll be using them when I travel to FL to shoot in Febuary at the first ASA shoot, as well as 8 other national shoots throughout the country ending in August. I wouldn't bring them along if they didn't fly the best.

I also don't mind the 6-10 more points a shoot I get with them over the ACC 339/Carbon Express 100-300 size shafts.

Jeff...U.P. of Michigan.