be careful what you guys wish for........................take it from a PA boy.....i once thought my areas were pretty overrun with deer......the last few years we had some MAJOR herd reduction....and ARs to make the herd healthier with bigger bucks......lets just say i rather see ALOT of healthy deer each day.....then see what i see now.......sure theres deer left......sure alot got smart and made it behind the houses till the season ends.....but never has our group seen it too bad...we used to see deer EVERY drive......now we are lucky to see a deer a day....