Hello all, i'm new to these forums but had to respond. I just killed a 9 point with a Bear polar, probably 15 years old. Yes they are noisy but they have killed a lot of dear. I think the bow market has some people brainwashed into thinking they have to have a new bow every couple of years. I just bought a Bear realtree extreme, it's not new but way newer than the old polar. Look forward to talking to you all. Mike